Henan S88 Expressway Photo by Windmemories
By Jo Nova
Does this look like a country that cares about carbon emissions?
President Xi said he would “strictly control” coal power from 2021 to 2025, and he has strictly controlled… a huge increase in coal power.
President Xi: — Reuters (April 2021) –“We will strictly limit the increase in coal consumption over the 14th five-year plan period (2021-2025) and phase it down in the 15th five-year plan period (2026-2030),” he said.
But nobody cares either:
China’s 2024 coal power construction hits 10-year high, researchers say
SINGAPORE, Feb 13 (Reuters) – China started construction on 94.5 gigawatts of coal-fired power in 2024, the highest volume of new builds since 2015, hampering the country’s transition away from fossil fuels, researchers said…
The surge came despite a record-breaking increase in renewable capacity last year and could make it harder to connect clean power to the grid, said the report, published by CREA and the Global Energy Monitor (GEM) think tank.
China also promised its emissions will peak in 2030, right when a whole squadron of these new plants will have barely started operation. But it’s OK because the new coal plants are only a “back up for renewable power”:
China has retired more than 100 GW of obsolete coal-fired power in the last decade, according to its energy regulator, and new projects can only be built to provide back-up for renewable energy bases.
So each year China is started building ten times as much coal power as it is retiring.
And all this coal power is needed despite the fact that President Xi China added a phenomenal 356 GW of wind and solar capacity in 2024 alone.
Where was all that wind and solar power when China needed electricity? — it was providing an excuse for all the extra coal plants China wanted to build.
Spot the strict limit on coal development in China…
These graphs cover Comissioning, Contruction, “Permitted”, New Project” and Retired coal plants in the last ten years.
We can all see for ourselves just how much work China has put in to stop “Climate change”.
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I recall recently some numpty claiming that China is retiring a lot of coal plants. I have bookmarked the above graphs…
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Elon Musk said that the entirety of the US can be powered by a single large solar farm. We need to listen to Musk because he loves freedom and he loves us.
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Which relies on perpetual overnight supplementation provided by a gazillion Tesla batteries purchased from Elon.
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Am I the only one that is doubtful of the attribution?
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https://youtube.com/shorts/nwA4HFXOzRs?si=Qo4F0LO5i5XixvX5
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Hero,
Musk did not propose to build a huge solar array. He was talking of numbers, the area required to provide Watts to power the USA.
It was in the sense of “If you laid the whole population of the Earth, head to foot, around the Equator, more than two thirds of them would drown,”
Geoff S
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That’s an ABC-type lying by omission comment.
Like the ABC these people don’t mention that they are being replaced and then some.
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they are not buffoons like the UK and Australia.
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I wish Australia would treat their net zero commitment like the rest of their hollow promises.
Remember the ‘no Australian child in poverty’ one from a few years’ back?
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…and more recently “$275 cheaper electrickery costs”.
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Re-elect labor and they’ll double that to $550.
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Yep.
I’d be surprised if even 10% of the population have trust in anything any politician says they are going to do.
There are some gullible numpties out there though. Then there are those that don’t have to jiggle the family budget and are thus not worried. Plus there are voters who will always vote for the same party regardless of what the pollies say or do.
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How they’ll do that – (bumped)
FWIW
The ALP’s secret money tree revealed!
“Leftist logic: Labor Governments don’t spend taxpayer money …they spend Treasury money.”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2025/02/leftist-logic.html
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It’s the thought that counts…
At least the Henan S88 Expressway has green plastic (?) make-believe ‘trees’ mounted on the concrete median strip – unless they’re CCTV monitors keeping an eye (and an ear) on the good citizens of The Party™️.
Forward to Bright Future of Next Tuesday!
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We should follow China’s lead and build a few coal fired generators as backup for our renewables.
If renewables didn’t need backup, then China wouldn’t be building the new plants, so it must be necessary.
What other reason could there be for building so many new plants?
Does Labor/Graans/Teals ever ask themselves this?
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Didnt have my glasses on meaning ‘Granns’ looked at ‘Greens’.
Apologies and I promise to wear them whenever I comment on here.
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Dianeh,
Alternatively, why not build a few windmills and solar farms for backup for coal fired electricity generation?
I know the answer to that. “Renewables” are 3 to 4 times more expensive than coal plants in real, operational terms.
Read top economist Dr Alan Moran in the February 2025 edition of “Spectator”. Or search the new word ECONOCIDE.
Geoff S
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Just to link to the co2 emissions data for China, NON OECD, OECD and the World again.
See the link to OWI Data.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=OWID_WRL~Non-OECD+%28GCP%29~OECD+%28GCP%29~CHN
Note that China in 2023 emitted more co2 emissions than ALL of the 38 OECD countries.
And in 2023 the OECD countries emitted less co2 emissions than they emitted in 1988.
Who believes in this reduction in co2 fantasy anymore? And when will the OECD countries wake up and build more energy security and therefore more OECD national security?
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And what has the rocketing CO2 of fossil fuels meant for total atmospheric CO2? Absolutely nothing. atmospheric CO2 is increasing but very, very slowly at 0.4% a year in a dead straight line with no human impact visible. No rocket ship.
The idea that fossil fuel CO2 is responsible for the increase in atmospheric CO2 is so obviously wrong, it is amazing people believe it. It shows the power of repetition and the fear people have to contradict others.
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Meanwhile, here in Australia, we are going to spend $638 million to pump up an old mine in Broken Hill.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-25/underground-compressed-air-energy-storage-facility-broken-hill/104978122
Words fail!
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But isn’t that OPM?
Other People’s Money – taxpayers’ cash … ?
Auto
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No, it’s from the treasury, so it clearly isn’t tax payers money.
/s Really…. Do I need to type this?
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Just read the article and went looking for some explanation.
CSIRO recommend it, and claim it is efficient (60%). ALso claim it is cost-effective storage. Levelised Costs again, and further reading shows that there is ‘flexibility’ in the calculation of levelised costs.
This looks to be hydrogen power’s little brother.
https://www.csiro.au/en/research/technology-space/energy/energy-storage/underground-compressed-air-storage
I am interested in what others think about this.
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Well! The fact that the CSIRO has done a feasibility study and said it’s good to go, puts a curse on it from the start. Once again, it’s a loss/loss system, just like Snowy 2.0. Storing heat and pushing water up hill with compressed air just does not sound efficient to me.
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You are correct, storing heat and pushing water up hill are not efficient no matter how you do them. However, if you get fluctuations in electricity supply or demand, it can be a good way of saving some of the energy which might otherwise be lost. All these ideas coming out of the woodwork for hydrogen, Snowy II, etc, are trying to deal with major supply fluctuations from wind and solar. What they don’t realise is that these fluctuations are so major that a far better solution would be to use coal instead.
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When the NEM connected aluminium plants shut along with all forms of heavy engineering, the grid is going to need an easily varied load.
Snowy 2 etc will be crucial at this point.
Yes its mad but we live in a very silly country. Better to push water uphill or blow up a balloon than make aluminium.
Keep telling yourself the sun and wind are free and everyone can “work” from home. Then it all makes sense.
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Compressed air energy storage is not new and had been in use since 1870 to store mechanical energetic and 1978 to store electrical energy at utility scale (a 290MW/580MWh plant in Germany).
When CSIRO claims something is “promising” that means they are looking for a 10 to 20 year commitment of taxpayer funding to keep them going in that area of work, a substantial part of a career.
All these storage schemes are possible, like pumped hydro with turkey’s nest pondage etc. but they are all very expensive and are only needed because of expensive, unreliable “renewables”.
Of course, even in a properly designed electrical grid like Australia used to have, there is still a requirement for storage, but, back in the day, this was already catered for by existing storage systems like the Tumut 3, Wivenhoe and Shoalhaven schemes.
I wrote an article on pumped hydro storage:
https://www.siliconchip.com.au/Issue/2017/January/Pumped+Storage+Hydroelectricity
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The last time I looked there was a thermal penalty for compressing a gas. It gets hot. All that energy that goes into heating the gas, (unless it is discharged before it cools or is captured), is lost from the round trip. The CSIRO just ticked the box to say it will be retained, boosting the efficiency of the system. I wonder if they have included the costs to do this in any of their cost estimates? I wonder if they have a method in mind?
As an example, ambient air, if doubled in pressure, will also double in temperature, (K). Taking it to, (let’s say), 10 Bar will multiply it’s temperature by 10x, eg 300K air would be 3000K. So even a blind man can see that if the heat isn’t retained in some other medium, then the compressed air has a very high potential to dump heat into pipework or the surrounding rock, etc.
To keep the cooling medium to sensible temperatures and to ensure that it can trap sufficient heat energy, it would have to be vast, possibly multi-staged. Read added cost.
If a mine with 10^6 m3 of storage was available and air was to be compressed to 10B, (heated to 3000K), then the heat energy gain of the gas will be around 1kJ for each K raised for each m3 compressed. By my sums that will be 10^6 x 2700 x 1kJ of energy in HEAT, or 2.7^12 J. In simple terms, 750 MWHr. A hell of a lot of energy if not recovered or even only partially recovered.
If you are trying to stop heat leaching into the rock strata too fast then you will not want it to be hotter than say 50C. If using water, then you would need to absorb over 99% of that heat energy into a water store. Let’s exclude boiling the water and all the associated pressure and storage issues and assuming a starting water temperature of 25C. Then you would need a volume of around 8.8 Ml, (I’ll leave it to the calculator brigade to check my sums). That’s a lot of cooling water, (How many blue whales is that?). All to be pumped around to ensure the correct cooling and subsequent reheating of the gas. How much energy does that pumping take? Is it included in the CSIRO calculations or is it ignored?
And of course, there are going to be energy losses throughout the compression cycle, such as electrical losses in the compressor motor. Compressor losses due to the machine not being 100% mechanically efficient. Turbine losses as the air is released, generator losses as the current is generated. Transmission line losses.
I’m thinking that the losses will far exceed the value of the project.
And of course, it all relies on the fact that the rock strata doesn’t leak at 10 Bar.
And will the anti-frackers object to this pressure increase underground? Or is it green enough?
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If you have an existing sealable cavern. or series of underground roadways then compressed air energy storage is likely to be a viable storage option.
The main features is that the storage capacity is only limited by the volume available so can be very low cost if you have an exiting mine with lots of open space. The other benefit is that could have a very long operating life (Huntorf is already nudging 50 years).
The downside is low round trip efficiency but that is a bonus when you are getting paid to tae power. Average price right now across the NEM is MINUS $8/kWh. So you could make money by connecting a big resistor and just heating the air without even compressing it. If it was actually spinning demand, you could get paid for FCAS as well.
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You will get paid to act as the load because there is no paying customer to use the electricity.
Its barking mad! No doubt it will be standard practice in the bankrupt state of Victoria.
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All I can say is it ‘sounds good’ but reality will trump claims, the reheating part will recover some lost energy, maybe.
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Dianeh,
Here’s what I Think.
CSIRO employed me in my first Science graduate year, 1967 or so. My boss, Dr Les Edye, later won the valued CSIRO medal for his research that continues to benefit Australia from improved pasture plants. We did the Townsville stylo thing.
About then, I had a leap forward in analytical chemistry when Dr Alan Walshe and colleagues at CSIRO invented and commercialised Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometry, starting from a fundamentally excellent understanding of physics and sweeping the labs of the world.
I could give example after example of world class performance by CSIRO. In retirement, blogger Nick Stokes is another CSIRO Medallist for computational thermodynamics. He is to be respected for that.
In recent times, say after year 2000, we saw the capture of CSIRO by politicians. Remember former NSW Premier Neville Wran? Onto the CSIRO board he went. More like him followed, so CSIRO was no longer run by top scientists with valuable achievements. At the same times, those childish concepts of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, plus burning twigs Welcome to Country endorsement of mysticism (no place in Science), plus feminism and poofter stuff in employment criteria set CSIRO on a very different path that has had next to no significant breakthroughs to justify its funded future.
The CSIRO reports, some with AEMO, on the calculated costs of electricity by various means are a cherry picked disgrace that have helped communistic politicians give Australia an electrical supply system that is 3 to 4 times more expensive than the wonderful system of mainly coal that gave us among the cheapest and most reliable electricity in the world.
Why, I ask, why did CSIRO scientists of the 1980-2000 era let Science get prostituted so brazenly and so disgracefully?
Geoff S
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Same the world round Geoff. Name your scientific institution and the same process has probably occurred. What happened was Al Gore, who realised that prostituting science and exaggerating its findings was a way to get him to be US president. Very nearly did. It’s what happens when you mix science with politics- you just end up with politics. Hence, the same model is used by politicians worldwide who fund science to produce the outcome they need to win votes. It then becomes a closed loop. What we need is some person, not a politician and who has his own fortune, to say Man made climate change is a scam. Needs to say it loudly and repeatedly. Gee, I wonder who that person might be?
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Al Gore’s obsession with anthropogenic climate change came after he lost the controversial presidential election to George Bush, not before.
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“Words fail!”
Not only words, how many times can you pump it up to pressure and release it without, you know, the geology failing.
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How do you test the fatigue cycle of an old mine?
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they are nuts – anyone who has worked in mining will tell you that mines are full of holes – never mind the porous rocks. They get carried away by the use of old oil wells to increase flows by pumping water into the oil reservoirs and forget that these are considerably deeper than old mines. however, I love the idea – perhaps they could put a big whistle on the top of the pipes so we know when they are producing air flow to run the generators. Its really just another version of pumped storage. Words fail me.
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They’re ramping up nuclear as well.
Looks like they don’t really give a tinkers what the west thinks.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61927
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Also note China’s GDP per capita has soared ( since 1990 by 13.8 times) and matches their increase in co2 emissions by 2023.
Most other countries haven’t doubled their GDP per capita over the same period. Of course from a higher base, but China has become much wealthier as their BASE-LOAD energy has increased.
Today China’s total GDP is only second to the USA.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-per-capita-worldbank?tab=line&country=USA~DEU~GBR~FRA~KOR~JPN~CHN~IND~OWID_WRL~AUS~CAN
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How much of that GDP is in real estate? China has a rather large debt problem.
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I guess there would be quite a few CO2 molecules from China being naturally sequestered in Australian soils, ocean, and vegetation. How about requesting a few carbon credits from the Chinese?
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Australia is largely below the Tropic of Capricorn which is 40% of the planet. Only 2% of humans live here, so our CO2 contribution is tiny, 2% but in the context of nearly half the planet, nothing. Mostly water.
So what do the promoters of this scam do? Divide by population to argue that we are the worst, the most culpable nation on earth. As if the problem is scaled by CO2 per person, not unit area.
And the entire CO2 output from fossil fuels is only 1% of what is already in the air which is only 2% of what is in the oceans, so 0.02%. So we measure ’emissions’, which are tiny, to magnify the supposed problems. And draw rocket ship graphs of ‘pollution’. 1.2 Billion Chinese people just breathing out generate more CO2 than our whole country.
It’s all lies and farce. CO2 existed for billions of years. All living things are made from CO2 and H2O and precious little else. And suddenly CO2 is life threatening pollution. It shows how much politicians have corrupted science.
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I wonder if anyone actually believes rapid tipping point man made CO2 driven Global Warming Armageddon?
37 years of imminent disaster, cities drowning, millions displaced by climate change and unlivable temperatures. Even COP is past farcical now being held in oil capitals like Dubai and Baku, sponsored by the oil industry who are doing very well out of Climate Change. Dubai in particular is completely unsustainable. A city of 5 million non citizens, there is no food or water or energy except that imported. And China is booming on cheap energy and manufacturing others cannot afford to do. Australian exports are now mainly CO2 in the form of iron oxide and black coal. We make nothing and export pure CO2. We are total hypocrites.
But still Australia is on a mission to shut down what remains of our own use of coal, gas, oil and manufacturing, transport and agriculture. Apart from what we ship to China.
So you have to conclude that our politicians get their instructions from China. Because nothing they are doing with Chinese windmills, Chinese solar panels, Chinese power lines, Chinese steel make any sense economically. There is no investment. And there is no demonstrated problem with the weather or sea levels anywhere in the last four decades.
What is the problem that has us closing down our own society? Saving the planet? You have to be kidding. How? From what? And China is conducting live fire drills off our coast to warn us to behave ourselves. How much clearer do they have to be?
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The main difference between AU and CCP populations is, in China, political control is absolute from CCP Central whereas in Australia we have 6 States/governments and four large cities that somehow believe in 6 different ways of doing the same thing. The only time we work as a collective is in war or some other emergency. Covid is the worst/best recent example but even them it required a form of Marshal Law and fear of death/imprisonment or both to elicit compliance. We are currently being exalted to abide by the fictitious cult of climate change that requires obedience to Gaia and the rejection carbon. Very soon we’ll be asked to choose a new Government but in reality status quo will apply because we have lost the collective will to make objective decisions. In the end it’ll be a case of dumb, dumber or dumbest.
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Penguinite,
Do you honestly believe the Australian Federal government would do a better job of schools or hospitals or public transport (say) than the states do. I think, if you look at how well they run the military, you’ll agree that it’s a long shot. Look at what they’ve done for electricity.
You’re right to be pessimistic about our choice for Australia’s next government — I am too — but don’t you think the proper answer is that the Feds should be big-picture only, and not matter that much to everyday Australians? If they were to restrict themselves to defence, immigration, consular stuff, quarantine, … and bugger off out of education, health, electricity, etc., we might see the place running a bit better.
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Sounds good, Robert, but you then run the risk of electing a regime such as Andrews/Allan in Victoria. We have gone from being one of the most liveable states to being the most royally screwed.
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Every time I compare governments in Australia, I find each worse than the other. People may question this, but it stacks up OK. Really. Something like 90% of university professors are better than their peers, and I asked one of them to check it out.
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The biggest beneficiary of the anthropogenic global warming fr@ud is China.
The fr@ud has caused the West to deindustrialise, except TRUMP’s America which will now reindustrialise.
This has been of huge economic benefit to China who are exempt from the Paris Accords because they claim to be a “developing country”. That is also a huge lie. They are an advanced country with cities often being more modern than anything in the West.
Leftists apologists often say how China also is building renewables. These are nothing but virtue signaling project to demonstrate their supposed committed to combat “climate change”. The reality is that they laugh at the West and the naivity of politicians and the useful idiots of the Left.
China is by far the world’s largest emitter of CO2, more than twice as large as the US and rapidly rising.
They are building two coal power stations per week, each with a lifespan of 50 or 60 years. Their CO2 emissions won’t be reducing for at least that time, they will continue to rise, not that CO2 emissions matter, but that is the premise of the whole CO2 scam.
You will never hear a Leftist complain about Chicomm CO2 emissions. Why?
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And we all know how well de-industrialization of the west worked for us with the COVID lock-downs etc. It’s like investing, all your eggs in one basket, is only looking for trouble.
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Our blinkered obeisance to NetZero politics means, of course, that China’s unrestrained belching of CO2 and other gaseous
pollutants from coal-fired baseload power generation stays in China.
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And then I woke up! Only when the wind and weather is dormant otherwise they are freely redistributed which most always means always
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The climate alarmists will make every excuse imaginable to justify China’s massive and ever-growing emissions. The bottom line is that they love seeing the rise of China, which is what this is all about. Moving from the Liberal Democracy to authoritarian Communism is their goal and helping to kill us off by pushing destructive climate change ideology is one of the main tools. Unfortunately, this plan is working as noted by the recent presence of the Chinese warships off our coast, firing away in gay abandon in an act of obvious aggression, without any fear of reprisal and not a peep from the army of professional left-wing protesters that roam the streets of our major cities. The only comments from our PM was they they obeyed international law by staying outside our national waters, which is pathetic. Of course, the rise of China is only made possible by the deliberate sabotage of the west by the climate Marxists, so whilst China is the benefactor we shouldn’t forget that the real enemy lies within. These are the people that also promote DEI, identity politics and open borders on top of climate change policies. These are all designed to create economic decline, poverty and civil unrest and it’s no surprise that’s exactly what we see today.
The big question – where are the leaders in government who are champions of our democracy ?. It’s as though we live in a communist vacuum already and all we hear are lame excuses or silence when China embarks on another act of provocation. For example, how nice would it be if the PM came out and banned all imports and property ownership from China. This might have a negative economic impact, but it would free us from the grip of hostile dependency.
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China is a DEVELOPING nation.
They were developed long ago, and had developed gunpowder (they just called it powder because they hadn’t developed guns yet) … but then some people that didn’t look them, but looked like Europeans showed up, using their powder in anthropogenic carbon based guns, and caused them to stop developing.
The Europeans kept developing, unfairly, so now it is critical that Europeans stop developing, so that China can catch up so that everyone can stop developing with equity of non-development.
All people can’t stop developing until China develops.
Once everyone has stopped developing, we can stop having nations, and there will be no developing nations and we can have One World and a Net of Zero.
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As you all know, I’ve been ‘doing all this’ since 2008, and when I first mentioned back in 2008 that China was constructing one to two new large scale coal fired power plants each week, and would be doing the same for the foreseeable future, I was ‘flamed’ mercilessly at ‘green’ sites, and told that was Bu11$h1t. That goes right back to the third Post I submitted to my home site, and I was sending those Posts via email to the site owner long before he gave me a login. He even highlighted it in bold at the bottom of that Post, and here I was being a little conservative as I was tentatively thinking that might not actually be the case, worried that I would be proved wrong, and ending any credibility I might have right at the start.
Needless to say, it has been proved correct, and here we are seventeen years later, and China is still doing the same.
When I wrote a short series on how coal fired power still had a long life in front of it, the research I did again opened my eyes even further. True, China is indeed closing coal fired plants, but in the EXACT same way that the U.S. closed coal fired plants in the 60s, 70s and 80s, China is shutting down the ancient, old, small clunkers, replacing them as newer tech large scale USC (UltraSuperCritical) plants come on line.
China is also upgrading the middle sized old tech plants (300MW Plus) to the newer technologies as well. (that text almost at the bottom of that Post)
And in fact, they are even upgrading some of the earlier USC plants (built back in 2008) to the better technologies now coming in. (scroll down to the image of the, umm, positively feelthy coal fired plant turbine hall, and the text is under that image)
You can say a lot of things about China and the ‘morality’ behind the constructing of so much coal fired power, but as I mention in that series right at the start, they are, in reality, really only playing ‘catch up’ to what we already have in the already Developed World.
Tony.
PostScript – Man, it’s actually a little embarrassing reading back over that Post from March of 2008. I was just starting out, and it’s really amateur stuff really. Ed, the site owner was pretty much horrified when he read that about China, and emailed me immediately asking if it was true or if I was perhaps expanding facts a little. In that same Post I also used an Australian euphemism, ….. running around like chooks with their heads (well, you know the rest) and in that same return email, he asked ….. “What’s a chook?”
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Reminiscent of “why a duck” Marx Bros skit https://youtu.be/kHMrLpDHXc0
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Tony,
We should take a leaf out of Chinas book . They have refused to commit suicide by “climate change” and are ignoring the irrational narrative . Attributing the blame for the narrative to them is disingenuous – the climate change narrative was going long before Chinas rise . It is true that they have taken advantage of it , but the western world has been hoodwinked by the deep state who have been stating their aims openly for a long while (Club of Rome) , and have control of the financial system and have used that to leverage media and governmental control . The WEF ,WHO and to a large extent the UN are in their control . We need to look at long term plans for the use of fossil fuels as they are effectively finite . Our civilisation is energy intensive and increasing capacity should be discussed rationally . Elon should be building Nuclear generation rather than batteries. All red thumbs will be collected and sold for charity….
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Thanks for your work Tony, and I’m glad you found Jo.
I hugely value your comments, even though I rarely comment directly, as I have nothing of significance to add.
Best wishes
Dave B
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Maybe China, being run by engineers, rather than lawyers, realised ages ago that electricity would be the most important driver of computing. They have long had the world’s most powerful computers, so if it wasn’t ages ago, that realisation would have been definitely recently. I have said before, I think Xi wants to build ‘Metropolis’– a giant machine, and AI, and power, is the way to do it. Somewhere there are graphs pointing out the huge differences between Chinese and American energy use- China’s is largely industrial, Americas has become predominantly consumer. Looking at the Chinese middle class’ present woes, it is pretty clear Xi has little interest in his people, and if he can get AI first, it is over for everyone else. (and possibly China too!)It is probably impossible for the US to switch it’s energy use, let alone build the plants to keep up with China. Things like generally China poured more (maybe hopefully lousy?) concrete in the last 5 years, than The US did in the whole 20th century!
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Furiously curious mentions this
In the second link at my own Comment directly above his, I actually explained that in fact, and in detail.
Right at the top of that Post of mine I included a graph showing America’s power generation from the end of WW2, and under that I included the following text:
China is doing now ….. EXACTLY what the US did.
Tony.
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China has never pledged to reduce emissions from 2026. What they did was pledge to reduce emissions per unit of GDP. This means they can increase emissions provided their economy grows. They can over build now and close older plants later and claim success.
Anybody that takes a word the CCP says literally is a fool.
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According to OxfordEnergy, China has both goals to lower CO2 by 65% from 2005 levels by 2030 and separately to peak CO2 emissions before 2030.
It also has the goal of increasing the share of non-fossil fuels in primary energy to around 25%. (Which means the big goal is to reduce fossil fuels to “just” 75%!) And non-fossil fuels means hydro and nuclear. Notably, the goal for renewables is listed in GW not percentages. There, they aim to get to 1200GW of presumably nameplate capacity, and presumably don’t care whether it works or is used.
https://chineseclimatepolicy.oxfordenergy.org/book-content/domestic-policies/climate-goals/
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The CSIRO tell us that co2, Methane and Nitrous oxide have a NH NET source region and a SH NET SINK region. See the link from Cape Grim CSIRO site for the 3 gases and read down for the 2 other gases described as NH NET SOURCE and SH NET SINK.
Cape Grim Data
” Seasonal Variation.”
“Carbon dioxide concentrations show seasonal variations (annual cycles) that vary according to global location and altitude. Several processes contribute to carbon dioxide annual cycles: for example, uptake and release of carbon dioxide by terrestrial plants and the oceans, and the transport of carbon dioxide around the globe from source regions (the Northern Hemisphere is a net source of carbon dioxide, the Southern Hemisphere a net sink).on dioxide concentrations show seasonal variations (annual cycles) that vary according to global location and altitude. Several processes contribute to carbon dioxide annual cycles: for example, uptake and release of carbon dioxide by terrestrial plants and the oceans, and the transport of carbon dioxide around the globe from source regions (the Northern Hemisphere is a net source of carbon dioxide, the Southern Hemisphere a net sink)”.
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Sorry, here’s that Tassie Cape Grim CSIRO link again.
https://capegrim.csiro.au/
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Is that an increase of 90PPM in 45 years.
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Chyna is as committed to net zero as Albo is to reducing our cost of living.
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China seems to be working on the principal of building what works under the cover of being ‘a developing economy’, while letting green tech develop and catch up to them somewhere down the track, while the West is forcing an immature technology into replacing what has worked well and served us since WW2.
It’s like buying a car in 1905 and shooting your horse while looking around to see where to stick the crank handle.
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I remember watching a LPGA golf tournament played in China last year.
It was an undulating inland course with forests along the perimeter and many lakes. After watching for a while, I thought something was odd about the background sound (no bird noises) and no waterbirds on the lakes and birds on the fairways (not one). Maybe the trees around the perimeter and in the background were plastic trees.
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Apart from the United States under TRUMP, the West is being systematically destroyed by the red-red alliance and the red-green alliance i.e. the alliance of Western Leftists with a) the Chicomms and b) fanatical followers of the seventh century warlord.
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China is merely doing what is necessary to keep up with demand from ignorant World Leaders. China knows that CO2 induced climate change is a hoax, they check my web site at least once every week.
The simple facts are that at any one time the atmospheric concentration of CO2 has the same base rate with a seasonal variation added across the whole of the Globe regardless of the density of human occupation but depending on latitude.
The rate of increase in CO2 concentration has been steadily increasing at the same rate everywhere showing that Net Zero has achieved nothing. Furthermore, each time series for CO2 shows a regular season variation, that is climate change causing CO2 change – NOT the reverse.
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It’s so exasperating. Australia has a piddling population of 25m ( maybe a tad more). Which means anything we do in terms of CO2 emissions reductions is completely insignificant.
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Which makes us look real bad in terms of per head of population.
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Net Zero is a way for China to destroy opposition countries and power blocks. That is why it so enthusiastically funds Universities pushing the Nut Zero insanity onto us.
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