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I had another unbearable lecture from my lefty Phd/Dr relatives. (at a recent family birthday event).
The debate turned to talk about population.
“8,000,000,0000 people.
And… If we placed each one on a 1 square meter plot.
Together, beside/adjacent to each other.
Then the worlds population would cover 8000 sq Kilometers.”
I agreed with that.
Then they all consenually agreed that that was larger than the landmass of the USA.
I disagreed with that….. and suffered the usual putdowns by the family elite who can’t calculate.
Yet 8000 sq km Sounds large doesn’t it?
Not really.
To give one an idea of how much land space that takes up.
It is 89.4 kilometers long and 89.4 kilometers wide.
So we can stand the world’s total population in the tiny country of Cyprus with a lot of room to spare..
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Hard to convince myself that you, or your educated rellies weren’t wasting your time. I watered down my first draft.
I’ve heard it before but I think I’d prefer to debate a flatearther.
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Hanrahan, Thanks for your comment, I am happy to read your first draft. Post it.
I will be clear for all.
Please understand that I was not dissing people holding a Phd or doctorship.
I was dissing my elite Phd, Dr, family members. Understand they make decisions that effect you. And they have no Idea.
I am directly related to John Howard, who was… I don’t know, you can tell me.
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I have found it best to not engage with lefty Phd/Dr types. Although in my case the appropriate designation is Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS). My strategy is to assume I am a cosmic alien and be just an observer of crazy humans. Those types are like an odd religious cult, and I don’t engage with them either.
Here is a crowd:
https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1448034/world-population-day-2015.jpg
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Don’t you think it’s our duty to engage with them hard, challenge their views, and hold their feet to the fire so to speak? Is it not our duty to the truth?
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Incidentally, there is a book about the very real psychopathology of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Of course, there is now Elon Derangement Syndrome as well.
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What have you got against wide open spaces? Would you like to live in a concrete jungle or do you think that concrete jungles are fine for the plebs?
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They may have PhD’s and what not but the inability perceive size and relative size is a problem related low intellect.
8000Km2 is trivial in any language.
I ask people what proportion of a country, best if its where they are, is urbanized in the case of NZ it’s less than 1% also ask what portion is roads again its trivial.
People struggle to realize that roads are everywhere but that is because we walk drive ride on them almost always
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Yes William, another analogy is that if the worlds population was living at the density of Hong Kong, they could all live in Tasmania.
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I attended an RMIT graduation and saw 200 PhDs created in one hit. Some of the areas were nuts. Like the trucking of Halal meat in Australia. I am not surprised if your relatives are innumerate.
And then we have have the new Dr Andrew Forrest of Green Hydrogen fame, new Dr Kevin Rudd who is currently attacking Donald Trump with his visiting Democrat friend and Treasurer Dr. Chalmers with a PhD in Keating in charge of destroying the economy. Soon we will be told it’s the recession we had to have. And Dr. Jill Biden, Ed.D or doctorate in education not PhD but with her own entry music, as Madame President.
All convinced of their own superiority and infallibility. Scarecrows from the Wizard of Oz. All you need is a piece of paper. And in the post Royalist world, what every demagogue craves, a title.
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Be honest-how many on this blog identify as Koalas or Wombats as it seems ok for you to do so, according to UK govt minister
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-14384377/Identify-Llama-respect-people-identify-animals.html
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We used to have institutions to care for these creatures but the accountants and the do-gooders had them closed down and the inmates released into the community with sad and tragic outcomes such as these.
I wonder what kind of pig-brained demonic entity it is that’s identifying as Sir Kier Starmer?
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This is an update on the ecological damage caused by wind turbines after they have been hauled into an upright position.
https://dailysceptic.org/2025/02/11/the-devastating-ecological-carnage-wrought-by-wind-turbines/
Would be interesting to see an article describing the whole of life damage caused by wind turbines, including their manufacture, shipping, putting in place, ecological harm to birds and insects and dismantling. Not to mention noise and the local effects on down wind climate.
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With the swing to the right in Europe and a coming awareness of costs and the problems with energy sources, I had formed the impression that Europe was backing off from their extreme climate zealotry Never underestimate the desire of Brussels politicians to get reelected however and their willingness to form pacts to ensure this
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/von-der-leyen-to-toughen-climate-laws-in-exchange-for-political-favours/
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It just not happening. We are suppossed be getting milder winters with milder over night lows. Nope. It has been a bitterly cold winter with cold, cold, nights. The record low was broken last night according to the news feed. I had 14 below. Fahrenheit. Actually, I have been seeing below zero Fahrenheit just about every night for the last eight weeks. On those few nights were it was above zero Fahrenheit it was only in the single digits. Fahrenheit.
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Dave,
You don’t say where you are near. I look at a National Weather Service chart that is called “Climate Plot” but may be something similar. There is a heading “Current Month Charts and Tables”. Other cities are available
This link goes to Pendleton, OR
https://www.weather.gov/pdt/CliPlot
For Portland, OR
http://www.weather.gov/pqr/cliplot
For Phoenix, AZ
https://www.weather.gov/psr/cliplot
I haven’t found a key to what they do. For example the airport code for Phoenix is KPHX but the link to the charts is ‘ psr ‘.
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JUST IN: Matt Taibbi Takes Aim At John Kerry, USAID In Direct Warning Of Threats To Free Speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiwLGLJcuf0
Real journalist Matt Taibbi testifies before US Congressional committee.
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